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summer connish in for chris matthews. president obama calls for congress to act on a scaled down deal that would spare the middle class on tax hikes from the first of the year. he spoke with john boehner tonight but is grand bargain still possible when everybody is leaving town. then in the weeks since the shooting massacre in a town that left hand 20 children and six educators dead, we've been hearing for plenty calling for new gun control laws but little from the nra until now. in a bizarre meeting, the head of the nra said the solution to gun vie lerchs in this country is simple. more guns. armed officers, in fact, in every school. it's the same line we've heard from nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw is yet another symptom of a real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise and they've lurched too far to the right. >>> plus replacing hillary clinton, john kerry gets the job he's waited for his whole life. president obama tapped john kerry as the next secretary of state. >>> and let me finish with the n
us about this new fiscal cliff deal that president obama has sent over to senator leaders? >> well, the power of social media to get the word out. gop sources say in the conversation with the president, he indicated that he does have a bill he would like to bring forward to the hill today. they have not seen that. it would be a package to deal with averting the fiscal cliff. we can infer from that with what the president said before he went to the family vacation in hawaii that he wanted something that would be scaled down, not a massive grand bargain that would protect the current tax rate for people who earned less than $250,000 a year or perhaps a different figure if they reached that. but trying to protect the middle class. so officials here haven't seen it yet, but this is kind of today's volley in what has been this ongoing battle. house speaker john boehner has been saying the president must act and it appears the president is prepared to do that with another offer. and senate democrats would presumably be right on board with that. hopefully we will get details sometime this
have been a lot better off taking the deal that boehner was negotiating with president obama way back when. it was a better deal all the way around. they missed that moment. but i think the real thing is who pays the price. the people who are going to pay the price are the americans, the middle class. this is crazy. it's nuts to be putting us through this. >> all of the focus on tax cuts. but the revenue from increasing the taxes on the wealthy will barely make a debt in the deficit to say nothing of the trillions in debt we're talking about. is this just a symbolic fight this the president is determined to win off his election? >> it's not symbolic. there will be money raised if the taxes are left to expire. but let me just bring up a point. no democrat and certainly not this president has said there should be no spending cuts. on the contrary this president has put on the table an extraordinary amount of spending cuts to the chagrin of many democrats i might add. are they to the extent the grand bargain was? no, of course not. the president is in a much stronger political position r
, the president met with congressional leaders this afternoon and declared he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. speaking in the white house briefing room, president obama condemned congress for failing to resolve its differences in any normal way. >> christin, let's take a listen to what the president said about the up or down vote about what he expects to emerge from the senate. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic. if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senate store reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. i believe such a proposal could pass with bipartisan majorities. >> this up or down vote seems to be the big news of the day. isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it's president's obama's way of sayi ining vote on his basic proposal. it would extend in employment insurance ben filt fits and deal with unemployment insurance cuts.
the president. so mitch mcconnell, speaker john boehner, they have to deal with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the three of you and your introduction, i'm just struck a real low point in american politics over a period when there's been pretty good kovcompetition for the low of the low points. i'm also really kind of moved by the really political malpractice going on. we have an economic recovery on going. >> by the way, you don't really hear people talking about the unemployment rate. you're working to build on the momentum of this recovery. help them prove it so american households can get ahead on their own. through working hard. not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work a
president obama and house speaker john boehner it may be time for the upper chamber to craft a deal. here is lindsey graham's suggestion on "meet the press" this morning. >> any hope must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea to protect 99%. boehner's plan b i thought made sense. to my republican colleagues the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want that is a good day. >> senate minority leader mitch mcconnell may be key to an agreement. texas senator tells the washington post, quote, will he pull a rabbit out of his hat? i don't know. i don't know. i would be grateful if he comes up with a way out of this other than going off the cliff." joining us is jamie harrison and republican strategist chip who is campaign manager of mike huckabee's president campaign. chip, let's start with you. are mitch mcconnell and senate republicans the last hope for getting a deal done? >> this close to christmas i will say yes. the democratics can't do it alone. republicans can't do it alone. i think mitch mcconnell has been eerily quiet which makes me believe he is pr
that president obama and speaker boehner in a room together could cut this deal. i think boehner can't control his colleagues. >> well, yes, that's true and i've heard that sympathy for boehner and that's true, but on le the other hand, really good politicians solve problems and he hasn't been able to solve that problem at all. >> an aide to senator read says, senator reid fully agrees that they should pass the bill that extends tax cuts for families up to $250,000, extends unemployment insurance and delays the so-called sequester while we negotiate additional policies next year, but the bottom line is that moving forward on any solution will require corporation from speaker boehner and senator mcconnell. we hope they will return from christmas ready to cooperate. perhaps senator reid trying to fill the vacuum that's been left from what happened in the house. >> senator reid can try to fill that vacuum but he only controls one half, you know, one of the two bodies in congress. it still boils down to this dynamic that hasn't changed in a year and a half. >> thank you, david corn and jared berns
back on this for the good of the country? if no deal is struck this year, president obama, what does he have? well, he's got the inauguration coming up. a big platform. he's got the state of the union address coming up. a big platform. he is going to have a better chance to have the american people on his side. president obama urged all members of congress to get some perspective over the holiday weekend on this. >> everybody can cool off. everybody can drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols, enjoy the company of loved ones. and then i'd ask every member of congress while they're back home to think about that. think about the obligations we have to the people who sent us here. think about the hardship that so many americans will endure if congress does nothing at all. >> that is a crucial point right there, folks. here is president obama. not saying boehner can't get his caucus together. i got my folks together. we're ready to rock 'n roll. we've got a deal right on the table for the american people. it's boehner, he is the problem. the president didn
think it saved obama from himself. the deal he was offering to bear, to raise taxes on people making $400,000 was a really bad one, right? now we get to come back to a new congress. you know, what he needs to find is get the house democratic caucus in line and pick up 20 republican votes in the house. 17 republican votes in the house. that's the coalition that is going to pass something. going off the cliff, i think, is going to be the best thing. >> you set up perfectly what we want to bring up next. you brought up social security and the compromise the president was going to make. a lot of folks saying he shouldn't have done that. social security is at risk some democrats say. people are afraid the president is willing to cave. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low test
to the quickly approaching fiscal cliff. tonight president obama and lawmakers are heading back to washington. but do they have enough time left to strike a deal in congressmen tray joins us. hi, tray, a pleasure to see you tonight. >> you too. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. unfortunately we still have the fiscal cliff looming over our head. a lot going on. talk about whether or not we can't get some kind of bipartisan approach. there is some kind of discussion that there might be a deal coming up. tell us what you know. >> i assure you that there will be a resolution either before the new year or shortly after the new year. that's the good news, that there will be a deal. the bad news for you and your viewers is that there won't be a solution. it will be a pan sea or some magical elixor that makes us all feel better. but shortly after we will get a letter from geithner asking us to raise the debt ceiling for the 80th time in our country's history. there will be a deal to, quote, avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal, they should demand a solution. >> do yo
into effect unless lawmakers can broker a deal. >> reporter:cx$z president obama will4zkn:eÑ with congressional leaders later today at the white house. it may be too late for a deal. there are just four days left before the fiscal cliff deadline. >> i have to be honest mr. president, i don't know timewise how it can happen now.((?u >> reporter: harry reid lashed out at house speaker bane area out at house speaker bane area caution him ofrm" dictatorship. >> boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> reporter: republicans blame democrats. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank cheque or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> reporter: president obama flew home early from his speaker boehner call the house back into town for an unusual sunday session. members of congress understand the 11th hour actions may not be enough to appease the public. >> the american people have a right to be very upset
. breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcco
hanger. president obama calls on congress to act after christmas on a scaled down deal that would spare the middle class from tax hikes on the first of the year. >> we've heard plenty of people calling for new gun control laws, but very little from the national rifle association until now. in a bizarre news conference that was interrupted twice by protesters, the head of the nra. it's the same line we've heard before from the nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of the real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. and they've lurched too far to the right. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff, msnbc political analyst and msnbc contributor jared bernstein. jentle men, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to senate majority leader harry reed. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner and i also met with senator reed. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents
tax hikes don't go in to effect. president obama on friday saying he would accept a deal as long as it does not allow taxes to go up on middle class americans, as long as it extends unemployment insurance and lays the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. so there's sort of scaling back their expectations. house speaker boehner tried to get an alternative bill passed through the house last week. that failed. the focus shifts to the senate. reid and mcconnell will really be charged with trying to hammer out the fine details of that deal that can make it through the senate and through the house so that is the challenge moving forward. of course, president obama here in hawaii for his christmas cray case. he played some golf over the weekend. also, attended the memorial service for the late senator daniel inouye. thomas, on a much lighter note, he asked me had i taken my flip flops out last hour. i hadn't but i did since my work is wrapping up for you guys, flip flops are out and i'm ready to join those folks on the beach behind me. >> i'm very proud of you. i don't want t
street. no deal on the fiscal cliff on this final friday before christmas. negative reaction from investors as the president speaking moments ago tries to calm the fray. plus, president obama making it official. >> i'm very proud to announce my choice for america's next secretary of state, john kerry. >> the president calling on the veteran massachusetts senator to fill secretary clinton's spot. plus in the wake of the new town shooting the national rifle association breaks its silence. >> out of respect for the families and until the facts are known, the nra has refrained from comment. >> harris: and the group's ceo placing some blame. >> we have flood soaked films out there. vicious, violent video games. >> and the nra offering a proposal, an armed officer in every single school in america. also, mexican police locked up this former u.s. marine months ago, accused him of trying to bring a gun into the country. >> a lesser person would have pleaded guilty. >> they chained him to a bed and reportedly threatened his life. but this marine stayed strong. and now time finally to come
present and wash their hands clean of president obama's proposal and allow him to deal with the economic consequences of his plan. >> can i just add -- i'm sorry to jump in -- i'm sorry to adjust quick. can we stop saying it's ten days? it's three days. >> it is three days, that's correct. >> they're not coming back until wednesday. >> true. >> i think to katie's point. the thing i would say, though, i don't think that -- again, poll after poll after poll shows it's the republicans who will take the hit if this deal goes down the way we think it's going to go. not the democrats. you know, most americans, what do they understand about the republicans came back and they voted present. that's not what people are going to pay attention to. >> it'll damage -- it'll damage the president. >> they get a paycheck and see what's happened to the payroll taxes. >> i'll tell you something, you've got a point, karen. but it will also -- a recession will do enormous damage to the president's second term. >> but i think -- that's going to hurt -- that's going to hurt everybody. to some degree that hurts
in site. tonight president obama urged congress to broker a scaled down deal. >> i just speak to speaker boehner, and i also met with senator reid. in the next few days a asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> yesterday the house speaker john boehner failed to garner enough support from his own party to even hold a vote on his plan to raise taxes for those with an income over $1 million. >> while we may have not been able to get the votes last night, to avert 99.81% of the tax increases, i don't think they weren't taking that out on me. they were dealing with the perception that somebody might accuse them of raising taxes. >> "outfront" tonight, chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and dana bash. ladies, nice to see both of you. jessica, we'll start with you. the president's message was short and sweet and kind of basic.
a plan to avert spending cuts and big tax hikes january 1st. president obama is calling on congress to craft at least a minimal deal and confident both sides will come to an agreement. this week, republicans rejected an alternative tax plan by speaker john boehner, that would have prevented taxes from rising on income under one million a year. well, there's a new law getting ugly for the good looking. iowa supreme court bosses can legally fire anybody they see as an irresisttable atraction, he fired her because he felt she was attraction to his fidelity to his wife. >> neil: get ready for new fees to fly in the new year. from southwest airlines. you miss a flight and don't cancel your discount ticket, you're going to pay up. overweight bags get ready to lighten up your wallet more. if you're overweight get ready to be killed. just-- (laughter) southwest says it needs the money. what about letting us keep them. >> it's so ridiculous and makes me so-- the airlines fees are like tattoos, never ever go away they just go up, up, up, up. >> neil: that depends where the tattoos are. i do.
gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align. >>> happening now, president obama says he's still optimistic a deal can be reached to avoid that fiscal cliff. just four days until the deadline. the president just spoke about his last-ditch talks with congressional leaders. >>> plus, police are searching for this woman after another person was pushed in front of a new york train and crushed to death. >>> and a huge piece of american history is under wraps. we'll tell you why. wolf blitzer is off. i'm i'm candy crowley. you're in "the situation room." >>> so president obama says the time for action on the fiscal cliff is here. he has a calendar, too. he just laid out his position after talks with top members of congress. everyone seems to agree it's up to senate leaders to make the next move and that the next 24 hours or so are crucial. we want to bring in our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. jessica? >> reporter: hi, candy. the president made it clear that he believes that this still can get done. he said he has a little bit of confidence, optimism that it would get done. but he expr
a deal going. it seemed earlier this week, richard, as though president obama and john boehner were getting close to some sort of a deal, a deal that would have dealt with deficit reduction as well as tax reform, but that all fell apart and now there's a big question mark about how they move forward and the president himself acknowledging when he addressed the nation on friday that given the tight timeframe, hopes for a larger deal have all, but faded and he's calling on congress to work together to just get a deal that would have at the very least extend lower tax rates for those making $250,000 or less and also to extend unemployment insurance and to help lay the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. right now the expectations have been lowered a great deal in terms of what is actually possible and you heard the president say that he is still optimistic that something can get done before the january 1st deadline and of course, there's a lot of pressure for these lawmakers to get something done because if they don't the economy could go back into a recession eventa you wi
off to hawaii, president obama was prepared to accept a smaller deal as long as it prevented taxes from going up on middle class americans and extended unemployment insurance. >> i expect democrats and republicans to get back to washington and have it pass both chambers, and i will immediately sign that legislation into law before january 1st of next year. >> reporter: but americans say the uncertainty in washington is casting a cloud over their holidays. >> they are responsible for the well-being of all americans, and right now they're more woern wored about politics. >> i would tell them to get off their butts, because most of us aren't making six-figure incomes and we need every single dime that we have. >> reporter: now, if we go over the fiscal cliff, taxes will increase for most americans. lawmakers will return to washington later this week to resume negotiations. president obama is also expected to cut his vacation short. willie, back to you. >> kristen welker in honolulu this morning. thanks. >>> john harwood is the chief washington correspondent and writing for "the new yo
and spending cuts. in a last bid for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several participants were seen leaving. >> and back at the capital the senate's democratic majority leader harry reid an
boehner to take the deal president obama offered before boehner tried to pass his disastrous plan b. >> again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself. but again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. >> i know i need one, so here's one for you. here's a friendly user's guide on who has offered real solutions to each of the fiscal cliff issues. on taxes president obama's offer compromise, agreeing to $400,000 as the new cutoff point. speaker boehner tried to sell a million as the dividing line but couldn't get it past his own party. president obama is therefore offering his original position, $250,000 and below. on spending cuts president obama proposed $1.2 trillion, about equal to what he was asking in revenue. boehner passed draconian spending cuts in the house with no revenue component. on exte
the cpi. obama has done everything he can to convince the republicans to take a deal that under normal circumstances would be a huge victory for them. they are changing entitlement programs, protecting tax cuts for 99% of the public, getting trillions through the deal -- in the summer of 2011. that is a very much conservative victory. but obama can't seem to get boehner to say yes, i claim victory on this one. and it is remarkable that that is the second time he offered cuts to social security benefits, and boehner is not willing to accept it. >> what are the white house's terms once you hit january one. and will all the same stuff be on the table? or will the president simply demand a fix in the tax rates as a starting point, pass the bill that fixes the tax rates first, then you can come up here and talk about the other stuff. >> it is a great point. and you know one of the understated aspects of this whole negotiation process is how much unemployment insurance, the payroll tax cut, and infrastructure spending has kept the white house at the table. the administration wants those thre
-- they were not taking that out on me. they're dealing with the perception that somebody might could say the-- accuse them. >> you have great sources in washington, could you please tell us what president obama said to john boehner during their phone call? >> i wish i knew, i don't have that good of sources, but i mean look, we're at a place now where it is very, very conceivably that we'll get to january one with nothing done. for a while i assumed this was noise and theater, and each side needed to demonstrate to their respective bases that they were getting what they needed to get. at this point i'm a lot more skeptical about that, and the people i talked to, that is a reported problem, they're worried about it getting done, as well. >> sam, i thought it was all noise, and bluster, as well. and it is done, as you say to try to claim the high ground, have the president look like he is really trying to avoid the cliff. boehner, i'm really tried to avoid the cliff. but the leadership at both ends realize that they will actually have to go over the cliff in order to begin to have the real con
. president obama, house speaker john boehner, were very close to getting a deal. president obama had given a little on entitlement reform, house speaker john boehner had given a lit until terms of agreeing to increase taxes. but they just couldn't get to the finish line. ultimately, everything sort of fell apart. i've been speaking to aides at the white house who say president obama doesn't feel as though he needs to give in a whole lot more because he won the election and he ran on a platform of increasing taxes on those making $250,000 or more. chuck schumer addressed this issue earlier today. take a listen. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, $250,000. no tax increases to people below but taxes for people above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: so again there is senator chuck schumer. so certainly still big topic of conversation despite the fact that everyone is now on recess. alex, yesterday we spoke to some folks who said this is really weighing on them as th
. the real condition here is will president obama make a new deal for any deal that could be gotten done. >> i just tweeted that out, you nailed, it eamon. lots of finger-pointing an complaining and sour grapes going on and very little in the way of compromise talk. thanks very much. continue to monitor the situation and get back to you, if we need to. >> in the meantime, what does all this wringling. >> and harry reid going at it with senator mcmcconnell. we'll talk to outgoing kay bailey hutchison and get her take. what is she hearing? will we get a deal or not. >> also ahead, does the tax code untearily penalize investors over borrowers. someone here says absolutely, and he warned it's going to get worse once we go over the clip. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male
from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. they say if president obama and congress don't make a deal we will almost certainly see a recession. do you buy that, steven? >> the congressional budget office is a nonpartisan group that does this and says we will in fact have an immediate rescission. they say that we come out of a short, sharp recession stronger than we would be if we didn't go into that recession in the first place. we stop borrowing money from the future to prop us up now. we have the immediate problems but in the long term we are in gets shape. that's what they are grappling this. how do they best structure this to do the least amount of damage now but get us to the good economy in the future. >> reporter: if you look up a research paper from the president's own economist you'll find in the long run we are healthier, short run, yeah, it's painful. is that what motivates some of the republicans that, you know, what are called chuckle heads, but maybe in the end they are wisdom heads. >> that is certainly part of the motivation there. the other part of the motivation, and
from a fiscal cliff deal? how far? president obama said he and house speaker john boehner talked yesterday, it was their first conversation since monday, when the two sides offered up concessions on tax hikes for the wealthy, the president offered lower tax rates for people earning up $400,000 a year, and for computing entitled benefits. in his weekly address, boehner stood firm, his message for the president, the ball is in your court. >> the president and senate democrats have vowed to reject and veto all of our proposals and failing to offer responsible solutions of their own. when the president has offered so far will not do anything to solve our spending problem and address the crippling debt. and he refuses to challenge the members of his party to deal honestly with the entitlement reform and the big issues that are facing our nation. that is why we finds orz oursel here today. >> the president's christmas break in hawaii may be quick, he is planning to return to washington right after christmas, briana, live in hawaii, i'm wondering, we are talking about the fiscal cliff t
off the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaiien family vacation short. flying back to washington tonight. unwhat kind of deal-making possibilities he will find when he gets back. house republican leaders held a conference call but no decision when to call members back nor is it clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of moving pieces and a lot of digging for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of the call. do we have any sense what fellow republicans are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we going to see a vote before going over the cliff? >> it's up in the air. i'm told it is in part why house republicans didn't make a decision whether to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is really in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that changed big time since a couple of weeks ago. at this point what senate democrats are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scale
probably blaming republicans for it, what is the rush for obama right now to do a deal? >> reporter: that is the suspicion that's shared by a lot of republicans taking it, steve, as almost an article of faith of three weeks, a month, that the president actually wants to go over the cliff and i'm not sure if that's true. i have no way of knowing if that's true. i kind of doubt it. if you look at it, the republicans lose a lot of leverage. they have painted themselves in to this corner. there's no denying that fact. john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh my god. i don't want to get started on that. but anyway, you know, there's a lot at stake here. and, you know,
you, gerri. gerri: president obama is in washington negotiating a deal to revert the fiscal cliff. the first time and there are 500 billion in tax hikes coming your way. december 31. grover norquist from the president of americans for tax reform are warning that that is only the start of our problem. >> in addition to the bush tax cuts, 500 billion-dollar tax increases, a trillion dollars in obamacare taxes, all the taxes to pay for that free health care we are supposed to get. 90% of the tax increases to pay for obamacare were convenient postponed until after obama got himself safely reelected. they begin to hit january 1 of this coming year. they are unpleasant. gerri: absolutely unpleasant. it is a disincentive to invest into work. i don't know what people are going to do down the road. now it seems that people are saying it's up to the senate. it in the senate ballpark now to do something and to get some kind of bill. will they do anything at all? >> all the focus has been on president obama and the house of representatives. the leader, speaker boehner. some of us went to publ
ducks in a row. look up on the screen we will put the most recent deals. just to remind everyone where we are at. if you look at spending cuts first, barack obama has basically moved about $325 billion on spending and speaker boehner, according to the last real public offer, has moved about $350 billion. i think it is fair to say had both moved relatively equally. but if you turned to tax increases, obama has already moved from, again the last public real offer $355 billion while boehner's moved only $150 billion. less than half. and then finally, and i want to go to you to unpack this. the stimulus money. this is not to be forgotten. we are in a recession. and many economists say that whatever else you do with long-term entitlement reform which is real, another real thing is growing the economy. obama has moved $250 billion. the number that boehner has moved on that stimulus is zero from the last final comprehensive offer. what do you make of that pacting that we are not mere the 50-yard line anymore? >> we also add that not only has boehner month moved, he can't get his own caucus to
. that was president obama saying that he thinks a deal will still get done before we go flying off the fiscal cliff. let's go to peter barnes who is at the white house now and has been standing outside in the cold waiting for all of this to go by. what did you hear there? >> well, he said it as wel as anybody could. there needs to be a time to cool off, no pun intended. we're cooling off here with a big cold-snap here in washington but the president saying, listen, after last night when speaker boehner's plan b, when he pulled that and now, there's no de in the works and everybodydy is going home for the holiday, fine. take this time to think about that. listen to constituents while you're back home. he was talking about the constituents and how they're perhaps more sensible than the politicians here. and he did, but h did keep the pressure on republicans to at least extend the middle class tax cuts to avoid the fiscal cliff. those folks, families making under 250,0 a year, kept up the pressure on republicans to at least do that and that, we may see that happen,elissa because, listen, there are som
. the last chance for a deal might be today at 3:00. president obama has scheduled a meeting in the oval office with vice president biden by his side. he's hosting all the major players. the chances of success, depends on who you talk to. >> getting more optimistic. sometimes it's darkest before the dawn. >> this afternoons meetings feels much like optics. >> there are some signs of possible flexibility, but first of all it would be helpful if the house of representatives actually came back. right now we're at a stalemate, because the democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spending. >> i want to bring in perry bacon and it edward keith. most of that was just from today. is this meeting to hash out details or perhaps to save face bhf we go over the cliff? >> i would argue today's meeting is they actually thing the outlines of a deal are possible. the president will push today for some agreement in which the middle-class tax cuts are extended for everyone, while the higher rates go up, we also put off the rest of the details for later. the president is pushing for somethin
boehner. if he goes back and stars to negotiate with president obama and tries to bring back the deal at this conference cannot accept again, the danger to him does arise. from what i was told thursday night, he gave a well-received speech to the conference. he said, i did not have the votes. his speech was well-received by them. he is well liked by those members. as of right now, he is not in in any immediate danger right now. depending on -- he is not in any immediate danger right now. host: will call on our line for independents. caller: i have hit some number crunching. these entitlements get to me. i have prayed $182,000 in social security over my working years. if you add taxes to it, it is 376,000. at 62, if i can retire, i would have paid $840,000. at 64, i would receive 8020 -- 18 $200. the-$8,200. -- $8,200. that is not entitlements. that is what is owed to people who have worked all their lives. i think if these people put us over the cliff, it is treason. guest: i am not sure what numbers those are. host: it seems that his basic concern is that he would not get out of it w
christmas, congress and the white house will have to start to deal with what president obama called the real consequences of going over that fiscal cliff. >> nobody can get 100% of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here. >> a short-term deal won't just focus on tax rates. the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell. the senate taking the lead on a compromise with democrats, and something that can get some support among house republicans. carl? >> hampton, thank you very much. hampton pearson in washington. >> the gift that keeps on givin
to be led. just show us the plan. that was encouraging. that seemed like we were going to have a deal, no problem. obama won the election. he'll hand them a plan. he'll make some small changes. that's how congress works, of course. pass it and we'll be done. we'll go home for christmas. not so much. president obama did hand them a plan as treasury secretary tim geithner made a special trip all the way to john boehner's office on capitol hill. he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won the election on. you might have thought that would have been leading, the problem would have been solved. not so much. >> flabbergasted. i looked at him, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> so when you said you wanted to be led, you just wanted a plan, that was a joke? so the white house agreed, then, no more leading, that was not what their partners in the house of representatives wanted. instead, white house and boehner entered into intense lengthy negotiations. and by the end of them they seemed really close to
financial crisis. whether it's a big deal or a small deal, president obama will he have something to sign in time? moments ago i spoke with democratic congressman elijah cummings. listen to what he had to say about the standstill. >> there is a sense of urgency. the problem is that we've got a group of tea party folk over in the house who basically has pretty much dictated what mr. boehner can agree to. boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't. >> all right. head to capitol hill. there's mike viqueira standing by for us. you know something else that representative cummings said. i just said you're standing by. it seems like even when they come back to d.c. they're going to be standing by. they don't seem to have much to do in the house right now. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. don't have anything to do in the house. for now they don't have anything to do in the senate, t.j. that's the thing. harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the two democratic and republican leaders respectively in the senate got back from that big white house pow
have until next week to come up with a deal. this afternoon president obama will hold a meeting at the white house. >> he invited democratic and republican leaders for the talks. we get the latest from sherri ly live at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. they are back at it again today. these are the first face to face talks between the president and republican leaders, and today the president will be meeting with congressional leaders here at the white house from both parties. they are trying to figure out a way to get around this fiscal cliff, and at this point it's not about coming up with a grand bargain. they're just trying to get something done and fast. president obama back in washington, but can he lead both parties to a compromise fiscal cliff work-around? republicans say democrats have been dragging their feet for months and they won't be pressured into what they considered a bad deal that doesn't help balance the nation's books. >> the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's political theater or they have a deal. my bet is
and jeff. president obama meets with the top congressional leaders. no deal can be reached impasse without their meeting. so far the fiscal talks have been when all four of these leaders have been present. >> whether he meant it or not, it seems exhaustive. >> i mean what's going on here? >> what indeed. president obama returned to the white house in a grim mood. he met with no congressional leaders and said nothing about his efforts to avert the fiscal cliff. talks continue between senior white house and congressional staff, but that's been true throughout then tire saga. with the deadline looming there were dire predictions. >> come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. >> and rekrimm nations. >> now republicans have bent over backward. we've stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement, but we had no takers. >> the senate's top democrat said it has nothing to do with phone calls but house republican obstruction. >> thehouse of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictator
that president obama made about being optimistic. i'm optimistic that they can cut a deal for what they need to stop doing is this political theater. they are he' still playing politics and this negotiation debacle is an example of how washington d.c. is broken, but i don't fault boehner, i fault president obama and the tea party. >> jamie: mike, at this point politically theater or not, the question is sitting on the edge of their seat. why is it going this way? why is the president away? why is john boehner saying it's up to the president? how do you see this whole thing playing out? >> well, i think speaker boehner had a really tough day. if this were a parliamentary system they'd throw him out as leader. he went to the caucus and they said we're not going to follow along. he they got 95% of what they wanted on the tax, maybe 99% and he said, well, i'm going to punt my responsibility, kick it to the senate, to the president and hope they can figure it out. the congress has the power of the purse strings. they have the ability to cut and spend on what they want to spend upon and to hear th
of president obama and senator reid that they are going to have to it craft a piece of legislation that would get a great deal of support from republicans in the senate because they realize that is the only way something is going to pass in the house. let's be encouraged by the fact that we are finally talking seriously, that there is going to be serious discussions tomorrow between senator mcconnell and senator reid and another good piece of news is the debt ceiling was not even brought up. i think there is also recognition it is too late in the game to try and fold that in because unfortunately probably not going to be a whole lot of serious discussion about what we need to do to save entitlements. >> sean: there is definitely true and i heard the exact same thing he does not get a debt ceiling increase which is important. he doesn't get the stimulus that he originally wa bargaine. at one point you seemed to support the plan b of senator boehner. tax rates increase for those over a million dollars. you are a guy that is well known as a conservative. in principle isn't that something you thi
. >>> and civil liberty groups take on torture in zero dark thirty. >>> if no deal is reached, the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is flying back to washington tonight from his christmas vacation in hawaii to make one last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided t
, in a few minutes a meeting will happen between president obama and congressional leaders. vice president joe biden will be there. they're trying to figure out how to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. not a lot of hope of a deal at this point but some argue because the reason is because neither side has an incentive for a deal. do you buy that theory? it's our "news nation" gut check today. you can join us. we are on facebook. there's the address. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> there's a lot going on this last friday of 2012. here's some of the things we thought you should know. tributes continue to come in for general norman schwarzkopf and nick nated stormin' norman for that legendary temper. he died yesterday in tampa of complications of pneumonia. he's credited for the plan that drove saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait during the first gulf war. president obama sa
the bleeding. gregg: hope is fading and time is running out obviously for a fiscal deal. president obama is though meeting with congressional leaders at the white house today. it's a move that tennessee senator bob corker says feels more like optics than anything else. while several other critics claim lawmakers may actually want to go off the fiscal cliff. and in fact some have said the president wants to go off the fiscal cliff. so, can a deal be reached? juan williams is a fox news political analyst. he joins us live. mary katharine ham, editor-at-large at hotair.com and is a fox news contributor. juan, what do you think about that notion? barrasso was the first one to say it on "fox news sunday" and you were there but others have said it since that the president really does want to go over the cliff so that he can reap the benefits of all of the tax revenues that would be had by everybody's taxes going up? >> i think that is historical revisionism of a very current type. he is already trying to spin this because i think it is clear from the polls that most americans want a deal. they
-term fiscal cliff deal done. we heard president obama on friday handed what we might call a bare bones plan c ahead of january first. extension of the bush tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less and an extension of unemployment benefits. while it could be a quick turn-around from that hawaiian vacation for president obama and congressional leaders, expectations they could be back in washington later this week, all eyes now on the senate where republicans are split on whether it's possible to make a deal with the obama white house. >> the president's statement is right. no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. i'm not in the majority of the united states senate. he is the president of the united states. >> when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years. and he gets to blame republicans for
term? >> i hear republicans and democrats and obama want to come together on middle class rates. i think they'll make a deal in early january to extend some part. >> but are you saying this doesn't really hurt? if they go sometime next friday, nine days from now, will the market go down and come up or will it plunge? >> the republicans want to cut a deal before the cliff. >> i know that. but if this thing goes over the cliff, will there be term innocent damage to the economy like a new recession? >> republicans tell me they think if they can make a deal on rates early january the markets will fluctuate. >> i am hearing the markets have already reacted. >> for a couple days. couple days. >> yeah. >> i've heard another argument. a lot of people say, or at least people i've talked to, if they can't do it by the date, they can't count on anything gets done. it'll get worse every day. >> it has been for two years. >> let's look at isaacson. i've never heard him say anything before. this is the first quote i've heard in my life. some republicans have urged their colleagues to pass someth
. president obama said $600 billion, john boehner was going to sign the deal.n >> the problem we have now is a problem we haveld then of if he could have the votes.to the number they'v they have come to right now basically about $500 million. cost on all sides. we should be able to get a deal if john boehner can get the support and get the votesvo he wants. eric: they said no, we can't do it. >> can't wait till that is fair >> can't wait till that is fair john boehner has been doing it. just hoping for support from his colleagues. eric: are going to have to leave it there. murder have under a stateg ov department official resigning over the benghazi attacks? why does this to say he's working for the government? eric: we just got some breaking news from toyota motors, according to our friends at the "wall street journal" settled a class-action lawsuit about acceleration $1.1 billion, we will keep our eye on that stock. wthe figures outraged initially the report a spontaneous protest over at that video? wait until the critics hearsecr this. resigning his post on the attack is reportedly sti
, disturbing trend in the big apple. apparently being pushed in front of an oncoming train. >>> no deal in sight to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll tell you how president obama is pushing forward as the clock ticks. >> first this morning's tech bites. >>> in today's tech bites, amazon.com getting a present from shoppers, good review, survey puts amazon at the top of the list where it has been the past eight years. big jim in americans reading e-books, re-- research finds 16 and older red -- print reading drops from 72% down to 67%. salary of time cook dropped by 99%, his 2012 compensation 4.2 million dollars, far cry from the 378 million last year. steve jobs' famously collected a dollar a year. >> for the first time in its history voting for oscars online some voters are complaining the system is confusing and worried it could be vulnerable to it's time to change the way we clean. it's time to free ourselves from the smell and harshness of bleach. and free ourselves from worrying about the ones we love. new lysol power & free has more cleaning power than bleach. how? the secret is the hy
. >>> let's make a deal. president obama sitting down with top congressional leader from both parties in just hours. can they agree on something before sending the country over the fiscal cliff? >>> and holy cow. $8 for a gallon of milk? why that utterly ridiculous price could be a very real possibility today, friday, december 28th, 2012. >>> and good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a friday morning. i'm savannah guthrie. >> i'm willie geist in this morning. she is full of milk puns this morning. holy cow. utterly. >> what are you, lactose intolerant? >> the trifecta. >> we'll move on to the big story, which is the weather. we're bracing for another big storm before the last one is done. >> it's expected to bring a new round of travel headaches during a holiday travel weekend. how will it impact you in more on that ahead. >>> also, retired general norman schwarzkopf has died at the age of 78. he's being remembered as one of the greatest military figures in u.s. history. more on his remarkable life coming up. >>> also ahead, it happened again. a man shoved to his death in fron
you see going on? >> well, i think president obama is not yet made up his mind. i think they got out ahead of themselves in a sense. they were floating hagel as if it was a done deal when it really wasn't. s there's been intense criticism. i think for obama to pullback on hagel after appearing to have done that on susan rice would present at the beginning of the second term an image of weakness domestically and also naturale: -- internationally. >> brown: and hagel, a former republican senator so we're looking -- >> there is the bipartisan element. although senator hagel didn't have a lot of allies left in the republican party when he left. >> brown: david ignatius, james mann, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: still to come on the newshour: another day of mourning in newtown. we'll hear from wayne lapierre of the nra and mark glaze of mayors against illegal guns; education secretary arne duncan; and high school students from around the country. also, the state of the fiscal cliff after a split among republicans; plus shields and gerson. but first, the other news o
're in in corner. they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting breaking news that the president will make a statement at 5:45 in the briefing room so we'll stay tuned for that. robert, help me out here. how can boehner stay as speaker when it seems like his knees get cut out from him every day? >> is there some dissension within the house republican ranks, richard? sure. to really challenge boehner, you have to have a challenger and there are a lot of people in the house republican conference who are frustrated with the speaker, but they're not willing to run against him. you have big names like eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, number two and three, they're not even ma
the obama's are from. there's a whole nother group of obama's that i'm going to deal with, probably in a more substantive way than her, in terms of where the story really comes from. it reminded me a little bit of windows during the clinton book, and what people saw was, because he said, it is in clinton's convention acceptance, a man from hope. from hope arkansas this little town in arkansas. the simplicity of the world life and, in fact, he was from hot springs, a completely different place, much more cosmopolitan and complex, and with a darker side to. the obama store, what people don't know is -- the real story of barack obama, sr. and his father takes place somewhere else, down in kendu bay, and that's where the african section of this book will start. >> final question. you want to introduce our viewers to -- [inaudible] >> leo, you could not make up. he belonged to some kind of african john rawl novel. he is 73 years old. he walks around with this menacing sort of club. he's got a deep rolling voice and laugh, and he seems to know everybody in africa. from the former presiden
republicans for it. >> president obama for his part said he is optimistic a deal can still be reached. he spoke at the white house friday before leaving for hawaii where he is now. but at the same time the president acknowledging there might not be time for any kind of a grand bargain. he scaled back his goals and pushing not for the big deal, but for middle class tax cut and extended benefits. a larger deal wouldn't be that hard to reach. >> what we ought to do is take speaker boehner's last offer, the president's last offer and split the difference. that would be a package of about $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the 1.1 trillion that will be done. that would be close to the $4 trillion needed to stabilize the debt and to begin to bring it down. >> and if no action is taken by the end of the year taxes go up for everybody. back to you, eric. >> we have to see. the clock is ticking. >> tick, tick, tick. more on the fiscal cliff negotiations. i am joined by congressman peter king from new york who is involved. congressman, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> happy holidays
no deal's reached, barack obama and democrats immediately propose to relower the tax rates to bush levels for all but the top 2%, and republicans find themselves opposing it on behalf of their millionaire friends will be the democratic charge. so that's kind of a nightmare scenario for democrats, and it's why you saw john boehner, speaker of the house, offer to raise taxes on americans who mange more than $1 million a year. patti ann: yeah. so the idea, though, behind this fiscal cliff is that it was supposed to have items in it that were unacceptable to both sides so that both sides would be motivated to not go over that cliff with the understanding that they might not be able to fix it all with legislation after the fact. so are there items in there that democrats would really not want to see enacted with the fear that maybe they couldn't get them rolled back? >> well, you're right, but it wasn't quite equal. the two big disasters of the fiscal cliff are, one, tax cuts, tax rates going up for everybody, and, two, all of these automatic spending cuts in place. but democrats feel confiden
thing the prospects of getting a deal after january 1 are significantly higher and that is for three reasons. first now president obama has all the leverage. after january 1st the leverage shifts to the gop. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over
and signed by president obama. the idea being to make it so painful not to cut a deal on taxes and spending that they would be forced to cut a deal on taxes and spending. except keeping them honest, they haven't done it. even though they knew the stakes, they knew the deadline, and both sides promised that this time things would be different. >> we need to return to fiscal responsibility. >> how is it that we're going to be able to do that? getting our fiscal house in order. >> the american people have spoken loudly. they want us to get our fiscal house in order. >> fiscal handcuffs on this congress that are sorely needed. >> washington is beginning to get its fiscal house in order. >> so they approve legislation that gave everyone nearly a year and a half to reach a long-term agreement on spending and taxes or face truly punishing consequences if they didn't. you'll remember at the time this was a really big deal. republicans had forced the issue by refusing to raise the debt ceiling without budget cuts. markets went haywire. congresswoman gabby giffords even returned to washington from re
for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployment benefits an average of about $300 a week if no deal is reached. >> good morning. >> you were laid off a year ago. tell us your story. >> well, yes, i was laid off a year ago around this time in december. and i received employment so i've been trying to look for a job which has been very difficult, on the internet every day. i also tried to start my own small business in the same field, janitorial services, which the whole thing of not having any money has caused a great hardship because i'm unable now to finance my business as well or get a small business loan because i don't have a job. >> $300, i just want to jump in, i apologize for cutting you off $300 a week doesn't get you very far to the point of financing a business. how much did this cover ju
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
. chuck wants us to do a deal like obama care where you bring in both sides and you think about all the -- you know, all the ideas from the republicans, all the ideas -- and then you adopt a bipartisan plan. >> did you read "the wall street journal" over the weekends? >> i did. >> boehner says i've given you $800 billion. >> what did it remind you of? >> that's some caddie shack. where spalding walks up to the shack and said i want a cheese birg, milkshake and fries. and his grandfather says, you'll get nothing and you will like it. you know what it reminds me of? elections have consequences. i won. it's not a nice tack to the center where i'm going to govern for all of you. are you coming back? >> i'm going to. >> the jacket is coming off, though, right? >> christmas eve and i'm celebrating. as you know, we had the tree going this weekend with the lights on. >> that's so nice. there's one other thing i sought on that thing over the weekend that you brought us that i was going do -- oh,no. did you see mitt romney did not want to run? >> i saw that. that was in the boston globe. that
if they came to a deal in the next five days than i was by the roberts vote on obama care. there's no way these guys are going to come to a deal, and the reason is this. the president has got the upper hand, and his most important partner is the weakest person in this, which is john boehner. john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and now boehner can go to the caucus and maybe get 200 and a few votes and then with nancy pelosi pick off a few democrats and make some kind of deal. having said that, the best thing for the country is never to come to a deal because ed rendell is right. as a former governor, we don't operate with big deficits. you
obama met with congressional leaders for several hours at the white house today to try to hammer out a deal before taxes go up on more than 160 million americans. after the meeting, the president presented a new plan to avoid the cliff and said he was modestly optimistic. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over into the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. given how things have been working in this town we have to actually wait and see until it actually happens. the one thing that the american people should not have to wait and see is some sort of action. so if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do. this put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up, that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people, and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction
, tip o'neill, the democrat made a deal for the huge change in our tax structure. there seems no possibility of a deal like that being made now. >> well, the republicans clearly feel that they've been disadvantaged by president obama and they actually, i don't think, trust him or the democrats anymore because of the experience they went through with the affordable care act. obama care, they've got nothing out of it so they feel they will be hung out to dry if they do a deal. >> you know, there are so many pots and plans clattering around the chamber and what bothers me he is the lopsidedness of the debate. how about the g.o.p. for decades never said we are the ones delivering the middle class tax cuts. these are middle class tax rates that were enacted undergeorge w. bush. we own these for the middle class, not the democrats. why isn't the g.o.p. stepping up for that. >> i guess because they have no historical memory, a democrat hasn't done this since jfk. back in the early 1960's. and he got a huge amount of protest. >> clinton lowered the capital gains tax and because of tha
spot. i suspect if there's a deal, it will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke down. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, i put $800 billion in tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall street journal" story before christmas that went through the timeline of how this happened between painer and the president -- boehner and the president. boehner put the rough knee on the table and the president saying that's what i get out of the gate. you get nothing for that, which was a surprise to the speaker. he said if we go over the cliff, that the president threatened boehner, he said i will use my inaugural address to blame you for tax increases and for the fiscal cliff going overboard. that brings out pretty big guns when it comes to a president's bully pulpit. if atlantes to use that to play politics, that's significant. >> i have to bring this up. b
gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane. >>> an estimated 87 million ameri
cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane. >>> an estimated 87 million americans will be traveling over the holidays, and the weather is
. >> nine days remain to get the deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming recently. some link that to concerns the president may impose new restrictions on firearms. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate wfaa that an assault-sometime weapon like an ar-15 a week ago ran around $900. this week anywhere from diagnosis 1,500 to $2,500. in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safet
a last-minute deal is even possible or whether this is now all about shifting blame. president obama and vice president biden are sitting down with house leaders. the guest list includes harry reid, who this time yesterday said he didn't see any way the fiscal cliff could be avoided. whatever the case, our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin will be watching. what can we really expect to come out of this meeting this afternoon? >> well, alina, we're not sure what really will come out of it. the ideal scenario would be if all sides agree to a scaled-down version of the fiscal cliff agreement that the president and spe speaker boehner had been discussing weeks ago and then senator mcconnell would agree that no republicans would block it in any way if he can promise that. he argues that he can't really make that promise but if e he could then speaker boehner would promise to bring it to a vote on the floor. all sides would shake hands and we'd have a deal before new year's. that seems highly unlikely. but that's what all sides are pushing for today. >> i think we can all agre
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and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal,t will be unpalatable for everyone. >> there was a interchange before the talks broke wn. we have the quotes. john boehner said to obama, quote, iut $800 billio i tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall reet journal" story before christmas that went through the timeline of how this happened between painer and the president -- boehner and the president. boehner put the rough knee on the table and the president saying that's what i get out of the gate. you get nothing for that, which was a surprise to the speaker. he said if we go over the cliff, that the president threatened boehner, he said i will use my inaugural address to blame you for tax increases and for the fiscal cliff going overboard. that brings o pretty big guns when it comes to a president's bully pulpit. if atlantes to use that to play politics, that's significant. >> i have t
new year eve in order to deal with this mess. lou: was named david axelrod who said seeyou later. it turns out mr. obama was paying attention. ed henry, fox news chief white house correspondent. president obama nominating senator john kerry to be th next secretary of state, claiming his entire life has prepared him for this role to lead america's foreign policy. >> over these many years he has -arned the respect and confidence of leaders around the world. he will not need a lot of on-the-job training and has earned the respect and trust of senate colleagues, democrats and republicans. fair to say that few individuals know as many presidents and prime ministers or grass our foreign policies as firmly as john kerry, and this makes him a perfect choce to get american diplomacy in the years ahead. lou: and high praise for one of the people of this administration fromhis job was a natural, obviously coming after susan rice, ambassador rice w, well, withdrew her name from consideration. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox is security analyst, former u.s. ambassador to the uni
doocy live in washington with more on the last-minute deal making. hey, peter. >> hey. president obama is still going to be able to squeeze in one more day of vacation in hawaii before he leaves his wife and daughters hyped and boards air force one for dc at about 10:00 p.m. in honolulu, 3:00 a.m. eastern time. that should get him back to the white house sometime tomorrow, thursday morning, on the back end of a break he says he hopes will get lawmakers on the same page. >> everybody can co- opt, drink egg nog, have christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols, enjoy the company of loved ones and then i'd ask every member of congress, while they're back home, to think about that. think about the obligations we have to the people who sent us here. >> speaker of the house, john boehner, is expected to come back to washington at any time as well. before he went back to ohio and president obama went to hawaii, they were believed to be about $400 billion apart in spending cuts and tax increases. speaker boehner even had to withdraw the so-called plan b measure in the house that would raise
that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of irresponsibility. >> reporter: president obama says he'll cut his vacation short to hammer out a deal with congress. the deadline now a week away. i'm andrew spencer reporting. >>> if congress face to reach the agreement income tax rates will go up on just about everyone on new year's day. unemployment benefits will expire for many as well. you may not feel the pinch right away. already too late for employers to accurately who would income taxes from those january paychecks. the social security payroll taxes are set to increase on january the 1st. you will see an immediate cut in your take-home pay. >>> the senator from idaho is apologizing for being arrested over the weekend. senator michael crepo was charged with driving under the influence. he was pulled over early yesterday froms agoryia, virginia outside of washington. the senator says he is he is deeply sorry and will deal with the consequences. >>> charges could be filed as soon as today against a driver accused of striking several pedestrians in san francisco. one of the v
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